For what it's worth, if you wanted to just mess around with it for a bit, it is (at least for now) possible to do so, for free without making an account. It's just that most of the features (not the least of which being the more advanced "Dragon" model of the AI) is locked behind a paywall. The free version is cool for what it is (and even that has greatly improved from what it was when I first started using it... almost a year ago), but... yeah, at this point, I'm not sure it would be worthwhile to even get invested into it just time-wise, let alone money-wise.
The only censoring they had been doing before, that I was aware of, was replacing the word "rape" with "show respect to," which was pretty silly. Now, all of a sudden, the AI simply doesn't respond at all if whatever filter is triggered. It just throws the typical "The AI doesn't know what to say. Alter, undo, or try again" error message, which is what you got before when the AI had a hiccup or whatever.
And yeah, even though I never truly thought anything was actually private on there to start with (EDIT even though they had previously explicitly said that nobody at Latitude would be reading private stuff /EDIT), now that they've straight up come out and said they'll be reading your shit, "private" or not, yeah, that's the bridge too far for me.
In any case, I'm pretty much done with it. Already canceled subscription and deleted account. It was cool while it lasted, but they've pretty much cut off their nose to spite their face at this point. In their attempt to aggressively stop "pedophiles" or whatever (and I won't even get into the whole thing of "is it really pedophilia/bestiality/whatever if it's nothing but text on a computer screen?" on the one hand vs "hUrR yOu ArE aNtI-cEnSoRsHiP sO yOu MuSt Be PrO-pEdOpHiLiA hErPiTy DeRp" on the other), they've basically all but killed off their own project. It's not even a "freeze peach" issue, as too many of the critics are trying to claim, because Latitude is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they want, but it's still essentially the death knell for their product, all the same (outside of the few who will continue on/join up expressly because they're "pwning the pedos" or whatever *eye-roll*). Just because they can do whatever they want with their product, implement whatever heavy-handed content filters that they want or rifle though users' files whenever they want, that doesn't mean anyone is obligated to continue giving them money for said product. And like others have pointed out, not even multi-billion dollar company Google knows how to properly and consistently use AI algorithms to police shit like that without far too many false positives (*side-eyes Youtube*), so how can a tiny company like Latitude be expected to do it?
All that aside, hopefully, eventually, OpenAI will stop being such tightwads about how they parcel out usage of their shit (apparently there's a huge waiting list for anyone to even have a chance of using their tech) and what they charge for it (apparently it is exorbitantly expensive, which is why [ostensibly] AI Dungeon was "forced" to start using the FB-ized energy bars and shit). Honestly not sure why they call themselves "OpenAI" when it clearly isn't "open" at all, at least not by any understanding of the word "open" that I know. Some people were saying it was probably OpenAI who forced the hand of Latitude into censoring everything, based on OpenAI's own policies, but others have claimed that the Latitude devs said, on the Discord or whatever, that they (somehow) weren't bound by the strict OpenAI policies. If that's even true, then either the devs foolishly believed that was the case and then got fooled when OpenAI brought the hammer down, or they were lying about it from the get go, or else this actually does have nothing to do with OpenAI policy at all and really is just Latitude being excessively CYA. Doesn't really matter, ultimately. The damage is done, either way.
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Date: 2021-04-28 07:57 pm (UTC)From:The only censoring they had been doing before, that I was aware of, was replacing the word "rape" with "show respect to," which was pretty silly. Now, all of a sudden, the AI simply doesn't respond at all if whatever filter is triggered. It just throws the typical "The AI doesn't know what to say. Alter, undo, or try again" error message, which is what you got before when the AI had a hiccup or whatever.
And yeah, even though I never truly thought anything was actually private on there to start with (EDIT even though they had previously explicitly said that nobody at Latitude would be reading private stuff /EDIT), now that they've straight up come out and said they'll be reading your shit, "private" or not, yeah, that's the bridge too far for me.
In any case, I'm pretty much done with it. Already canceled subscription and deleted account. It was cool while it lasted, but they've pretty much cut off their nose to spite their face at this point. In their attempt to aggressively stop "pedophiles" or whatever (and I won't even get into the whole thing of "is it really pedophilia/bestiality/whatever if it's nothing but text on a computer screen?" on the one hand vs "hUrR yOu ArE aNtI-cEnSoRsHiP sO yOu MuSt Be PrO-pEdOpHiLiA hErPiTy DeRp" on the other), they've basically all but killed off their own project. It's not even a "freeze peach" issue, as too many of the critics are trying to claim, because Latitude is a private company and can do whatever the fuck they want, but it's still essentially the death knell for their product, all the same (outside of the few who will continue on/join up expressly because they're "pwning the pedos" or whatever *eye-roll*). Just because they can do whatever they want with their product, implement whatever heavy-handed content filters that they want or rifle though users' files whenever they want, that doesn't mean anyone is obligated to continue giving them money for said product. And like others have pointed out, not even multi-billion dollar company Google knows how to properly and consistently use AI algorithms to police shit like that without far too many false positives (*side-eyes Youtube*), so how can a tiny company like Latitude be expected to do it?
All that aside, hopefully, eventually, OpenAI will stop being such tightwads about how they parcel out usage of their shit (apparently there's a huge waiting list for anyone to even have a chance of using their tech) and what they charge for it (apparently it is exorbitantly expensive, which is why [ostensibly] AI Dungeon was "forced" to start using the FB-ized energy bars and shit). Honestly not sure why they call themselves "OpenAI" when it clearly isn't "open" at all, at least not by any understanding of the word "open" that I know. Some people were saying it was probably OpenAI who forced the hand of Latitude into censoring everything, based on OpenAI's own policies, but others have claimed that the Latitude devs said, on the Discord or whatever, that they (somehow) weren't bound by the strict OpenAI policies. If that's even true, then either the devs foolishly believed that was the case and then got fooled when OpenAI brought the hammer down, or they were lying about it from the get go, or else this actually does have nothing to do with OpenAI policy at all and really is just Latitude being excessively CYA. Doesn't really matter, ultimately. The damage is done, either way.