Denuvo and my Steam Wishlist

[kane_magus]

I've combed through my Steam Wishlist and deleted every game that Steam claims contains Denuvo.

Here is the list of games that I have removed from my Steam Wishlist (in the order they had been on the list [EDIT 3] Also reformatted into a proper unordered list now. [/EDIT 3]):

• Dragon Quest XI
• Rise of the Tomb Raider (EDIT 3) Not sure about this one or the one below, because supposedly the Denuvo has been removed [to be replaced with the just as terrible "Epic Online Services" or whatever the fuck], but the Steam store page still shows the Denuvo warning for both, so I'm still not going to strikethrough these yet. (/EDIT 3)
• Shadow of the Tomb Raider (EDIT 3) See line above. (/EDIT 3)
• Nier Automata
• Tales of Berseria
• Far Cry Primal
• Far Cry 5
• Monster Hunter World (Not sure why this one was still on there, since I knew it had Denuvo long ago. [EDIT 2] Oh, and hey, they finally took the malware out of it. [/EDIT 2])
• Star Ocean - The Last Hope
• Injustice 2
• Mortal Kombat 11
• Final Fantasy XV
• Jurassic World Evolution (EDIT 3) See also the sequel. (/EDIT 3)
• Valkyria Chronicles 4 (Not sure why this one was still on there, since I knew it had Denuvo long ago.)
• Borderlands 3
• Resident Evil 3
• Marvel's Avengers
• Death Stranding (EDIT 3) Though I've since had other problems with this game, even if they did wise up and remove the malware. Just to note, this is the first game on this list that I've bought since the strikethrough was added, even though I still can't play it, for the above-mentioned reasons. (/EDIT 3)
• Drone Swarm

(EDIT) I will go back occasionally and put a strikethrough on the games on this list that I've noticed have removed the malware. That said, it's still not very likely that I'll ever buy any of these games, regardless. At most, I may re-add them to my wishlist and maybe buy them if I ever see them on some ridiculous <$10 sale, possibly. (/EDIT)

Most of those are like, meh, whatever... but a few of those were games I had been really looking forward to, so it stung a bit to have to remove them.

This list does not include games that I had already previously removed or had never added in the first place (or, rather, had added only very briefly before immediately removing again).

This also doesn't (yet) include any potential games that contain/will contain Denuvo but for which the developer/publisher are hoping to hide that fact by not listing it on the Steam page.

Comments

[kane_magus]

Yeah... pretty much every single one of those games in that list are big-name, big-publisher games.

That's going to be my policy going forward, too. If I see a game in my Discovery Queue or just through random browsing or whatever, and the game contains Denuvo, I don't care how cool the game looks or how much I may have wanted to buy it otherwise, the game will instantly go on my shitlist.

I may reconsider later, if they ever remove the malware from their game, but... probably not.

[owsf2000]

Another thing I auto-ignore on steam for is when the game requires a 3rd party account. ie: an Xbox Live account as just one example. If I have to log into something else to play a game, I'll just buy it on that other service directly (Assuming I'm already signed up for it and give a damn about it.)

I may have an Xbox Live account from my 360 days, but I haven't logged into it for literally 5+ years. So while I'll auto-ignore it on Steam, I'm most certainly not going to bother getting it on Live either.

[kane_magus]

The only ones of those I might accept these days are the ones that are kind of already grandfathered in because I already have those services for other reasons anyway, like Xbox Live (even though I no longer own a Microsoft console), Origin, UPlay, etc. But even then, I'm not going to like it very much if a game on Steam requires those (and, in fact, didn't, for the rare few that I have bought in the past). It wouldn't be a dealbreaker, but it would certainly be a deal-"bent nearly in half"-er. And if I was going to buy an Origin game anyway, I'd just... buy it on Origin (which is likely EA's shitty reasoning behind requiring an Origin login for their games on Steam anyway).

If a game on Steam requires me to sign up for some new service like that that I don't already have an account for, then no, they can fuck off entirely.

I'm kind of preemptively waiting to get pissed off over games that were exclusive to Epic Games Store coming out on Steam but still requiring an Epic Games Store login. That's what would seriously gripe my asshole, just on general principles, because fuck Epic Games Store forever, but especially if it was a game that I still even remotely cared about (e.g. Shenmue III). It hasn't happened yet, as far as I'm aware, but I feel like it's only a matter of time.

[owsf2000]

One thing I wish Steam would do to expand their ignore system is to let us write in an actual reason for why we're ignoring it. Sure, Steam will then share that with devs and the like - which might be a bonus really - but it'd help me remember why I have some things placed on ignore.

I've ignored entire publishers and in some cases I can't remember what ticked me off enough to do that to the entire publisher/developer. But I refuse to remove them from the ignore for the very reason that I can't remember. I'm not superfast to add things to ignore list outside of 3rd party DRM and online accounts, so if I ignored something to that extreme there was a valid reason to me.

In particular I'm known to dev/publisher ignore if they make one particular unforgiveable sin - try to hide their 3rd Party DRM until they're ratted out by gamers that find it themselves. That's always a 100% blanket boycott with no expiration date to me. There is NO way they "forget" to mention it. Especially if they at first deny it's there until it's explicitly proven otherwise.

I just went through a queue of games while typing this. 3 ended up on ignore for DRM, one of those also included the Live connection. Also, while Denuvo is the primary 3rd party drm of choice these days that I end up having to blacklist a game for, I'm really not picky about what 3rd party drm they try to use - it all ends up ignored.

[kane_magus]

The games I've Ignored so far are the straight-up hentai games, the Trump-anus-huffing games, the "cuck"/"simp"/"Karen"/"meme" 4chan-ish trash games, racing games, MMO games (outside of a very rare few like The Secret World and Star Trek Online), MOBA games, any other type of game that is co-op/multiplayer-only... trying to think of other types I would have Ignored but can't think of anything else off hand.

Only publishers I have Ignored are ones like Kagura Games that publish nothing but hentai games, or those publishers that release only the meme garbage games. Not that Ignoring a publisher stops Steam from still showing games from them in the fucking Discovery Queue, of course. *weary sigh*

I haven't yet put games that have Denuvo or the like on Ignore, just on the off-chance that it might be removed someday, but I certainly don't want them in my Wishlist anymore, that's for sure, as I have zero plans to ever buy any of them while Denuvo is still a thing, Ignored on Steam or not.

And yeah, Steam letting us indicate why we've ignored a game would be a great feature, whether it's a private note only visible to us or something they share with the devs/publishers, and if I could do that, I would probably Ignore a lot more games (including the Denuvo-laden ones). It took them far too long just to add in the "Ignored - Played on Another Platform" thing, though, so I doubt we'll see anything like that any time soon, if ever.