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This. (For the most part.)
It is why this stuff has been happening, why it is still happening, and why it will never stop happening, despite the vocal minority (including myself) raising a huge stink every time some new piece of poo comes floating down the sewer pipes and into the eagerly waiting mouths of the general gaming public who otherwise doesn't care about this kind of thing.![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
owsf2000 and I have been saying this very thing for years now. Gamers bring it on themselves. Companies like EA do stuff like this because gamers are going to suck it down no matter how horrible it may be. It's just the way it is. I hate that this is the reality of the situation, but it's just the way it is. And it's only going to continue to get worse from here on out.
Now to explain the "for the most part." I'm pretty sure I don't agree with this guy's reasoning for why paying, in this case, $60 for Mass Effect 3 and an extra $10 for Day 1 DLC is a "bargain." It sounds like he's merely trying to rationalize his weak-willed capitulation to the very thing he's complaining about.[1] And I certainly don't agree that "I love Mass Effect $70 worth" (as it's the general principle of the thing that is more important than the particular dollar amount). Aside from those minor quibbles, however, I otherwise fully agree with the guy. Companies like EA aren't doing any of the terrible things that they do for the love of video games. That should already have been more than blatantly obvious, and I don't know why this guy is talking about it as though it were some sort of startling revelation, since he claims in his article that it didn't hit him that it was the case until he saw a comment from someone explicitly saying "EA seems like they only care about money." Really, EA and other big mega-publishers like them are, and always have been and always will be, doing it purely and explicitly for the $$$$$. As long as we keep letting them nickle and dime us (or, more appropriately, $10 and $20 us) like this, they will forever continue to do so. They have no other goal aside from keeping their shareholders happy, consumers be damned as long as we are willing to continue eating this shit.
I will be completely honest here, though. While watching that video there, I had to stop and go back more than a few times to hear what the guy was actually saying, because I kept getting distracted by the visuals... yeah, I still want to get Mass Effect 3, despite all this crap surrounding it... but I'm still going to sit on it for a while. I'm not outright boycotting it because, damn, look at that. I'm weak. I've freely admitted this before.[1] But I'm not buying it Day 1 either. Will wait for the inevitable price drop, even if I don't end up waiting for a "Complete" edition to be released, assuming one ever is. (EDIT 2) And now, over a year later, I still haven't bought it yet. That said, I'm also still not ruling out buying it at some point if I can find it somewhere for <$10-$15 or so, but my interest ever continues to wane with the passage of time. (/EDIT 2) (EDIT 3) I eventually did buy it for dirt cheap, but I never even ended up taking the shrinkwrap off of the damn thing before I sold it along with everything else. So while I did, at one point buy and own Mass Effect 3, I still have never actually played the game. (/EDIT 3)
After this point, however, I will be looking at every future product BioWare releases through the lens of this game here and the other recent ones that came before. If they release a Dragon Age 3 and it has this same sort of crap? Definitely not buying that (especially not after the relative piece of crap that was Dragon Age 2). If they release a Jade Empire 2 and it has the same sort of crap? Grrraaaaugh. That would be a tough one, I admit, but I'd probably have to pass on that as well.
Also, as an aside, I would just like to say this one more time, as I am seeing the subject being brought up in some of the comments under the headline article: I don't care how much you hate this kind of thing, it is not a valid excuse to pirate the games. That is all. (EDIT) Wait, hold on... is someone in those comments really trying to equate buying non-Big-Name-brand food or clothing with software piracy? Seriously? o_O Okay, I'm not going to make a whole other post about it, but I just want to say that this is one of the most ridiculously asinine things I've heard said about piracy yet. What's next? Buying Big Name brand clothing for cheap at Good Will is the same as software piracy? No, wait, I guess that's more similar to buying used video games (which is the same as software piracy in the eyes of devs/pubs/retards these days). (/EDIT)
[1] - And, to be fair to that guy, I've hypocritically done the very same exact thing regarding crap I've complained about in the past as well. Though, again, the Catwoman stuff at least wasn't being charged extra for if you bought the game new and thus still wasn't quite as bad as the ME3 thing here, similar to the stuff that TotalBiscuit mentioned for ME2 in the video above, but then I guess that's just me being the one doing the rationalizing now. Yeah, seriously, see how easy it is to fall into the trap of saying "Well, I guess all that horrid stuff that they did before wasn't so bad after all, given that they're doing stuff now that's way worse."? I mean, after all, they were only gouging used buyers with that other stuff so I guess that makes it okay now, right? No, no it does not. It's how we progressed from CD keys to limited activations to always-online DRM, for example. I wonder what horrid thing will come along next that makes this thing here seem not so bad after all. For me at least, though, I've already reached my own personal limit for what I'm willing to accept.
It is why this stuff has been happening, why it is still happening, and why it will never stop happening, despite the vocal minority (including myself) raising a huge stink every time some new piece of poo comes floating down the sewer pipes and into the eagerly waiting mouths of the general gaming public who otherwise doesn't care about this kind of thing.
owsf2000 and I have been saying this very thing for years now. Gamers bring it on themselves. Companies like EA do stuff like this because gamers are going to suck it down no matter how horrible it may be. It's just the way it is. I hate that this is the reality of the situation, but it's just the way it is. And it's only going to continue to get worse from here on out.Now to explain the "for the most part." I'm pretty sure I don't agree with this guy's reasoning for why paying, in this case, $60 for Mass Effect 3 and an extra $10 for Day 1 DLC is a "bargain." It sounds like he's merely trying to rationalize his weak-willed capitulation to the very thing he's complaining about.[1] And I certainly don't agree that "I love Mass Effect $70 worth" (as it's the general principle of the thing that is more important than the particular dollar amount). Aside from those minor quibbles, however, I otherwise fully agree with the guy. Companies like EA aren't doing any of the terrible things that they do for the love of video games. That should already have been more than blatantly obvious, and I don't know why this guy is talking about it as though it were some sort of startling revelation, since he claims in his article that it didn't hit him that it was the case until he saw a comment from someone explicitly saying "EA seems like they only care about money." Really, EA and other big mega-publishers like them are, and always have been and always will be, doing it purely and explicitly for the $$$$$. As long as we keep letting them nickle and dime us (or, more appropriately, $10 and $20 us) like this, they will forever continue to do so. They have no other goal aside from keeping their shareholders happy, consumers be damned as long as we are willing to continue eating this shit.
I will be completely honest here, though. While watching that video there, I had to stop and go back more than a few times to hear what the guy was actually saying, because I kept getting distracted by the visuals... yeah, I still want to get Mass Effect 3, despite all this crap surrounding it... but I'm still going to sit on it for a while. I'm not outright boycotting it because, damn, look at that. I'm weak. I've freely admitted this before.[1] But I'm not buying it Day 1 either. Will wait for the inevitable price drop, even if I don't end up waiting for a "Complete" edition to be released, assuming one ever is. (EDIT 2) And now, over a year later, I still haven't bought it yet. That said, I'm also still not ruling out buying it at some point if I can find it somewhere for <$10-$15 or so, but my interest ever continues to wane with the passage of time. (/EDIT 2) (EDIT 3) I eventually did buy it for dirt cheap, but I never even ended up taking the shrinkwrap off of the damn thing before I sold it along with everything else. So while I did, at one point buy and own Mass Effect 3, I still have never actually played the game. (/EDIT 3)
After this point, however, I will be looking at every future product BioWare releases through the lens of this game here and the other recent ones that came before. If they release a Dragon Age 3 and it has this same sort of crap? Definitely not buying that (especially not after the relative piece of crap that was Dragon Age 2). If they release a Jade Empire 2 and it has the same sort of crap? Grrraaaaugh. That would be a tough one, I admit, but I'd probably have to pass on that as well.
Also, as an aside, I would just like to say this one more time, as I am seeing the subject being brought up in some of the comments under the headline article: I don't care how much you hate this kind of thing, it is not a valid excuse to pirate the games. That is all. (EDIT) Wait, hold on... is someone in those comments really trying to equate buying non-Big-Name-brand food or clothing with software piracy? Seriously? o_O Okay, I'm not going to make a whole other post about it, but I just want to say that this is one of the most ridiculously asinine things I've heard said about piracy yet. What's next? Buying Big Name brand clothing for cheap at Good Will is the same as software piracy? No, wait, I guess that's more similar to buying used video games (which is the same as software piracy in the eyes of devs/pubs/retards these days). (/EDIT)
[1] - And, to be fair to that guy, I've hypocritically done the very same exact thing regarding crap I've complained about in the past as well. Though, again, the Catwoman stuff at least wasn't being charged extra for if you bought the game new and thus still wasn't quite as bad as the ME3 thing here, similar to the stuff that TotalBiscuit mentioned for ME2 in the video above, but then I guess that's just me being the one doing the rationalizing now. Yeah, seriously, see how easy it is to fall into the trap of saying "Well, I guess all that horrid stuff that they did before wasn't so bad after all, given that they're doing stuff now that's way worse."? I mean, after all, they were only gouging used buyers with that other stuff so I guess that makes it okay now, right? No, no it does not. It's how we progressed from CD keys to limited activations to always-online DRM, for example. I wonder what horrid thing will come along next that makes this thing here seem not so bad after all. For me at least, though, I've already reached my own personal limit for what I'm willing to accept.
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