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Link to Kickstarter update.
I read the post and watched the video, and I'm not really sure what to make of it all.
All I know for sure, at least as far as it pertains to me, myself, and I, is that I responded to the Kickstarter message I got on March 1, 2021, after the previous Cryamore Kickstarter update, and indicated that I wanted a refund. I considered not bothering with it, but the tone of that previous update (which was the first indication I had that there was any kind of drama going on) kind of rubbed me the wrong way at the time, so due to that, I responded with "YES" and my information. The above linked update is the first and only communication of any sort that I have seen from this guy and this project at all since that point, over a year and a half later. I haven't gotten a refund yet, nor am I actually expecting a refund at this point, nor do I honestly much care either way. If I get a refund, great. If I don't, I'm not really sweating it. Simply put, this is just one failed Kickstarter among several others that I've backed and gotten nothing out of it, no more and no less. I'm not upset about that. It's a thing. It happens. That's the risk you run when you give money to something like this. It's simply yet another tiny bullet point on the long list of reasons for me to never back another crowd-funded project.
I'm mostly just intrigued by all the fucked up drama that is surrounding this particular Kickstarter project, at least on the occasions such as this that I'm reminded that this Kickstarter project even existed in the first place. I have absolutely zero clue as to whether this guy is on the level here or if he actually is as big of a scam artist as others claim. The whole thing seems rather hinky to me, especially with him running a GoFundMe campaign (in which he whines about being "canceled") in order to ask other people for money so that he can pay back Kickstarter backers or whatever. Kind of strange how he apparently went from bragging about "making close to $15K a month" to, now, having to do a GoFundMe to beg for money.
On the other hand, the comments under that Kickstarter update and the associated Youtube video are indeed pretty fucking vicious and brutal, which kind of lends credence to everything he said. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if it turns out he's the victim of a <insert number here>chan coordinated revenge operation or whatever. Assholes like that have harassed people for far less than this in the past, after all. Or... it could just be what it seems like on the surface, i.e. a bunch of pissy, entitled assholes who don't understand how Kickstarter works and have been hounding after this guy for the past decade as he claims. GIFT is a thing, after all. (As such, if he seriously thinks that merely giving them their money back is going to be enough to persuade them to finally stop harassing him, I think he's going to be sorely disappointed. He's proven himself to be a decent source of "lulz," after all, so why would they want to give that up?)
There's also the possibility that it could be a "little of column A/little of column B" situation.
As of this point, though, either way, I mostly no longer give a shit, outside of vague, morbid fascination with all the drama. Like I said, if I get a refund, I get a refund. If I don't, I don't. I'm not expecting it, and that $15 isn't going to make or break me, in any event.
The game itself still looks vaguely interesting, at least based on screenshots and teaser videos and the stuff he showed in that update video, so if against all odds it ever actually sees the light of day, I might still be willing to get it at some point in the far-flung, nebulous future, at a severe sale on Steam or some shit, same as I do with any other game these days.
I read the post and watched the video, and I'm not really sure what to make of it all.
All I know for sure, at least as far as it pertains to me, myself, and I, is that I responded to the Kickstarter message I got on March 1, 2021, after the previous Cryamore Kickstarter update, and indicated that I wanted a refund. I considered not bothering with it, but the tone of that previous update (which was the first indication I had that there was any kind of drama going on) kind of rubbed me the wrong way at the time, so due to that, I responded with "YES" and my information. The above linked update is the first and only communication of any sort that I have seen from this guy and this project at all since that point, over a year and a half later. I haven't gotten a refund yet, nor am I actually expecting a refund at this point, nor do I honestly much care either way. If I get a refund, great. If I don't, I'm not really sweating it. Simply put, this is just one failed Kickstarter among several others that I've backed and gotten nothing out of it, no more and no less. I'm not upset about that. It's a thing. It happens. That's the risk you run when you give money to something like this. It's simply yet another tiny bullet point on the long list of reasons for me to never back another crowd-funded project.
I'm mostly just intrigued by all the fucked up drama that is surrounding this particular Kickstarter project, at least on the occasions such as this that I'm reminded that this Kickstarter project even existed in the first place. I have absolutely zero clue as to whether this guy is on the level here or if he actually is as big of a scam artist as others claim. The whole thing seems rather hinky to me, especially with him running a GoFundMe campaign (in which he whines about being "canceled") in order to ask other people for money so that he can pay back Kickstarter backers or whatever. Kind of strange how he apparently went from bragging about "making close to $15K a month" to, now, having to do a GoFundMe to beg for money.
On the other hand, the comments under that Kickstarter update and the associated Youtube video are indeed pretty fucking vicious and brutal, which kind of lends credence to everything he said. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if it turns out he's the victim of a <insert number here>chan coordinated revenge operation or whatever. Assholes like that have harassed people for far less than this in the past, after all. Or... it could just be what it seems like on the surface, i.e. a bunch of pissy, entitled assholes who don't understand how Kickstarter works and have been hounding after this guy for the past decade as he claims. GIFT is a thing, after all. (As such, if he seriously thinks that merely giving them their money back is going to be enough to persuade them to finally stop harassing him, I think he's going to be sorely disappointed. He's proven himself to be a decent source of "lulz," after all, so why would they want to give that up?)
There's also the possibility that it could be a "little of column A/little of column B" situation.
As of this point, though, either way, I mostly no longer give a shit, outside of vague, morbid fascination with all the drama. Like I said, if I get a refund, I get a refund. If I don't, I don't. I'm not expecting it, and that $15 isn't going to make or break me, in any event.
The game itself still looks vaguely interesting, at least based on screenshots and teaser videos and the stuff he showed in that update video, so if against all odds it ever actually sees the light of day, I might still be willing to get it at some point in the far-flung, nebulous future, at a severe sale on Steam or some shit, same as I do with any other game these days.
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Date: 2022-10-12 08:20 am (UTC)From:Only thing I've backed has been the Street Fighter Miniatures game that Angry Joe did with Jasco Games. Only reason I felt comfortable backing it is because Joe has a rep to maintain, and he typically does keep his word - plus he has a big ass following on Youtube and Patreon so in the unlikely event he would have to repay people, it's likely he'd be able to eventually. Also Jasco had already successfully put out a miniatures game around the Mega Man property so they already knew the ins and outs.
The project was delayed an extra 1.5 years or so compared to their initial delivery time. That was expected. The pandemic made it even more difficult. But he did keep everyone in the loop about how things were going and the quality was pretty much exactly what I expected it to be. In the end I received what I backed. He had plans on doing other games using the same rule system for DBZ and Mortal Kombat but as far as I know he hasn't started in on either yet. The DBZ one in particular had problems with licensing that makes it pretty much impossible to do. Not sure if I care about MK enough to back it if he does another one either way.
But yeah, in the end I'm still batting 100% success on Kickstarter personally. But that's because of the limitation above, plus that I'm not planning on backing any video games unless they have it already done and ready to ship - with the kickstarter just being used to raise capital for actual production/delivery of the final game.
Otherwise I'm likely to only to back pretty much anything if it's pretty much already done or I know the people involved and they have a good record at completing their kickstarters.
If a game dev wants me to buy their game before they're done, they can do an early access thing on Steam or something. And they had better have something worth showing when they start the early access.
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Date: 2022-10-12 03:38 pm (UTC)From: