For those of us who might have been avoiding Windows 10 for various reasons, it looks like some of those reasons are being installed onto Windows 7 and 8. I checked my installed updates and, indeed, all of those were installed on my system. No longer. So, essentially, in addition to updates that mention Windows 10 or "the next version of Windows" or "the next Windows operating system" or whatever, I now have to also be on the look out for updates that mention "telemetry" so that those don't get installed either.
(EDIT 2)Also, of note: that Forbes article is incorrect when it says that KB3075249 and KB3080149 are "Optional" updates. Similarly, Microsoft's own pages there about the updates also claim that they are "Optional." However, when I checked for updates again, it brought up all three of those, including KB3068708, as "Important Updates," i.e. separate from and higher priority than the "Optional" updates.
(EDIT 3) Actually, that's a mistake on my part, because I had the "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" setting checked in my WU settings, for whatever reason. This setting has now been disabled, and the updates now show up under the "Optional" section as appropriate. (And yet, even so, I still recall getting other "Optional" updates separate from the "Important Updates" sometimes, even with the setting checked. Go figure.) In any case, all three of those updates have now been hidden in WU on my machine, regardless of their supposed "importance." (/EDIT 3)
Well, to be frank, all updates on my machine are now "optional," by the actual, true definition of that word, regardless of whether Microsoft deems them to be "Important" or "Recommended" or whatever. (/EDIT 2)
Seriously, Microsoft, you might just want to ease up a bit on the thermite you're using on that bridge between yourself and me, before it burns away entirely.
(EDIT) I am now also opted out of the Customer Experience Improvement Program. I don't explicitly recall ever opting in to this program, but it's likely that I did, back in those halcyon days when I didn't think that Microsoft was increasingly full of shit. Those days are long past, though.
I also went into Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Task Scheduler and manually disabled all tasks associated with "Application Experience" and "Customer Experience" (some of which were still marked as "Ready" instead of "Disabled" even though I'd opted out of the CEIP).
Really, it's like Microsoft almost wants everyone to switch to Linux or something. Go figure. (/EDIT)
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(EDIT 3) Actually, that's a mistake on my part, because I had the "Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates" setting checked in my WU settings, for whatever reason. This setting has now been disabled, and the updates now show up under the "Optional" section as appropriate. (And yet, even so, I still recall getting other "Optional" updates separate from the "Important Updates" sometimes, even with the setting checked. Go figure.) In any case, all three of those updates have now been hidden in WU on my machine, regardless of their supposed "importance." (/EDIT 3)
Well, to be frank, all updates on my machine are now "optional," by the actual, true definition of that word, regardless of whether Microsoft deems them to be "Important" or "Recommended" or whatever. (/EDIT 2)
Seriously, Microsoft, you might just want to ease up a bit on the thermite you're using on that bridge between yourself and me, before it burns away entirely.
(EDIT) I am now also opted out of the Customer Experience Improvement Program. I don't explicitly recall ever opting in to this program, but it's likely that I did, back in those halcyon days when I didn't think that Microsoft was increasingly full of shit. Those days are long past, though.
I also went into Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Task Scheduler and manually disabled all tasks associated with "Application Experience" and "Customer Experience" (some of which were still marked as "Ready" instead of "Disabled" even though I'd opted out of the CEIP).
Really, it's like Microsoft almost wants everyone to switch to Linux or something. Go figure. (/EDIT)
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Date: 2015-09-12 10:52 pm (UTC)From:But yeah, they have been back porting the very shit that people DON'T like about Windows 10 to any OS that they still support - apparently thinking people hate Windows 10 for being Windows 10, rather than because of all the shitty spyware things they do in Windows 10.
I mean seriously, apart from still needing some hardware drivers and shit, Windows 10 apparently runs quite well if you believe the fanboys. The problems are entirely about all the loss of control over the system itself (No longer being able to refuse updates etc) and loss of control over your own private information (Everything you do being sent back to Microsoft for their own seedy reasons - yes targeted advertising would be included in that, and you know they will eventually if they haven't started it already.)
Add to this for those who don't want Microsoft spying on everything done on their computer, they have to go through great lengths to stop them because Windows 10 (And 7 & 8 I believe, if it has the offensive telemetry updates applied) ignores the host file when sending this shit back to Microsoft. You actually need a physical router running a clean OS to stop the data being sent by the OS from making it back to Microsoft, since you can't stop Windows from sending it.
Another thing you "can" do is to set one of those main offensive processes to never activate (set it's interval to 0 or something.) but when you do that, the OS starts breaking apart. That's how deeply entrenched Microsoft has this shit embedded.
(And you have to remember that this is only how it works for non-businesses. The Enterprise edition works pretty much like previous versions I believe. But Microsoft only sells the enterprise version of Win10 to... businesses! (Unlike earlier OSes where it just cost you more.) In other words, Microsoft knows damned well they'll never get a business to sign up for Windows 10 with the way it's intended for consumers. And they know businesses have a lot more money for taking them to court over it if the need arises.)