As cool as the rest of the video may have been, the first five minutes or so demonstrate why I will most likely never be buying this game, unless I see it on a 90% Steam sale or maybe as part of a Humble Bundle or something.
TL;DR version: Atlus is threatening to file content claims on anyone who LPs Persona 5 beyond a certain point, ostensibly because they don't want the game to be spoiled, and I think that's bullshit for a multitude of reasons, even if I had zero interest in watching any such LPs myself.
I dunno... I'll just embed the tweets I made about this yesterday or whenever, because I'm too apathetic to even honestly rehash it here.
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I'll transcribe what I wrote in my pencil-and-paper journal yesterday, as well.
"A bunch of people I follow on Twitter were talking about the Nintendo Switch yesterday. Apparently, Nintendo had some kind of presentation about it, and they were reacting to that. I don't know... I just can't bring myself to care about it too much. The new Legend of Zelda game looks interesting, I guess. I didn't (and probably won't) watch the presentation, though, so that's still all I know is coming out for the new console. Meh."
I seriously don't know. I haven't even cared enough to watch shit about the Nintendo Switch, yet. Maybe if I ever get around to doing so, maybe I'll change my tune on it. I'd like to care, but... meh. I really haven't cared about any of the new consoles all that much lately. The only one that's even kind of interested me is the PS4, what with Final Fantasy XV and The Last Guardian and the upcoming Persona 5 (which I know next to nothing about, except that it's Persona 5) and all, but even then... fuckin' meh. It's not that I'm out of gaming altogether, because I still buy a ton of (dirt cheap) shit on Steam and GOG and such, but for the foreseeable future, I guess I am out of console gaming altogether.
That said, I'm not going to get into spoilers here. Instead, I'll just leave you with some awesome music from the anime.
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And that sucks.
No, they haven't made it officially official yet, but between this:
Please read pic.twitter.com/wXXiVyjEPn— Matt McMuscles (@MattMcMuscles) December 16, 2016
As of today, I am leaving Super Best Friends Play. I can't possibly thank everyone enough for everything. https://t.co/nmQ091lCVh— Liam Allen-Miller (@2BFLiam) December 23, 2016
...well, you can come to your own conclusions, as I have.
My real hope here is that the reason this is happening is indeed for the actual stated causes in the two above posts, unfortunate though those may themselves be, and that there wasn't any heretofore unseen ugliness going on in the background that nobody but them knows about (yet). If it turns out to be the latter, well... I have said all I feel the need to say about that sort of shit over here. If everything is above board, I'll still care. If currently hidden ugliness eventually rises to the surface and makes its way to the clothesline, then fuck everything, I'm out for good, sad, frustrating, and disappointing though that would be. We'll see, I guess. Or not, as the case may be.
In any case, I wish it weren't happening, but it is.
All good things...
(EDIT) Just to be clear, their stated reasons are definitely good reasons to leave. Stress, burn-out, and anxiety fucking suck. They should absolutely take care of themselves before destroying themselves entertaining others, and if anyone else has a problem with that, tough shit. (/EDIT)
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Only made it through a single month's worth of dreams that time before getting tired of it. At this rate, it's going to take me a hella long time to get through all of these up to the present day, assuming I ever do.
Here is what they consider to be non-advertiser-friendly content:
Content that is considered "not advertiser-friendly" includes, but is not limited to:
- Sexually suggestive content, including partial nudity and sexual humor
- Violence, including display of serious injury and events related to violent extremism
- Inappropriate language, including harassment, profanity and vulgar language
- Promotion of drugs and regulated substances, including selling, use and abuse of such items
- Controversial or sensitive subjects and events, including subjects related to war, political conflicts, natural disasters and tragedies, even if graphic imagery is not shown
Hell, the "profanity and vulgar language" thing alone would kill most of the Youtube channels that I watch, such as Super Best Friends Play, Cinemassacre, Channel Awesome, Angry Joe, Pat the NES Punk, etc. And the "controversial and sensitive subjects and events" thing is just way too fucking vague and broad to be useful at all.
Honestly, at this point, I'm struggling to comprehend why any content creators are still bothering to use Youtube at all, if Youtube is going to have this gigantic a stick up its collective ass.
My guess, though, is that Youtube will start backpedaling super hard over this shit over the next few days or so and that, ultimately, nothing will change from what it has been up to now to any real extent. In any case, I'm glad I already don't bother to host anything on there, even if I had anything worthwhile to host in the first place.
The only "community" or fandom that I've had first hand experience with seeing the stupid bullshit they do is the Souls fandom, in the comments under any given SBFP Souls game LP.
Anyway, here is the Smooth McGroove acapella mix in question, which is of my personal favorite track from the game.
Comments under it are either about how good the mix is, or how bad and "toxic" the Undertale fandom supposedly is.
Just another example of why "Hate Dumb" is an actual thing that exists, and isn't just a page on TVTropes. Far, far too many people confuse the concept of "this is a thing that simply doesn't interest me" with "this is a thing that everyone should despise and it makes no sense why anyone would like it and those who do like it should be mocked incessantly." (The latter, of course, should be reserved only for actually important things that actually matter, like the very real possibility of Donald Trump becoming the next POTUS. ¬_¬)
(And yeah, in all cases, I guess I deserve what I get for making the mistake of looking at Youtube comments in the first place. You'd think I'd learn some fucking day. *shrug*)
Nosgoth shutting down huh? Almost like telling them to cancel that piece of shit way back would have saved them time and money. Whoops!— Patrick Boivin (@AngriestPat) April 8, 2016
Yeah, Pat ranting about this on Twitter is how I first heard about it.
Oh wait, I DID tell them to shut it down! I had a day long argument with their PR guy in some GAF thread. OH WELL GUESS I WAS RIGHT— Patrick Boivin (@AngriestPat) April 8, 2016
Anyway, I am gobsmacked... gobsmacked, I say... that this thing didn't come on like gangbusters. Oh wait, no I'm not. At all. Damn thing didn't even make it out of beta. This is basically one of those "and nothing of value was lost" sort of things, to me at least. (EDIT) Oh, and all the people in the comments under that Polygon article bawwing about how it's so terrible that the developers have lost their jobs and whiny waah and all that shit... fuck off. Just fuck right off. I'm not responsible for them. Yeah, sure, it's bad when anyone loses their job, but given that their job at that point was to make this shit, it wasn't too worthwhile a job in the first place, now was it. So yeah, it was a good thing that this game was cancelled. Good riddance, indeed. Oh, and the people in the comments there hoping that Square Enix will sell the Legacy of Kain franchise to Blizzard can also fuck right the hell off. Fuck Blizzard and fuck Square Enix both. (/EDIT)
As such, since this stupid bullshit has failed, like it was pretty much always destined to fail, in my opinion, instead of hoping that maybe now they'll start working on a proper LoK game, I'll simply say that the series had a good run, and requiescat in pace and all that. But as far as I am concerned, Legacy of Kain has been dead since Defiance, when lead writer Amy Hennig jumped ship to Naughty Dog (and has since left them for Visceral Games to work on Star Wars stuff, apparently). Anyway, the chances of anyone seeing another LoK game at this point is probably slim to none. Or, perhaps I should clarify... the chances of anyone seeing another good, or at least halfway decent LoK game at this point is probably slim to none.
Note: His actual Angry Rant only goes until around twelve or so minutes in, so it's not nearly as long as that 29:35 length might indicate. I stopped watching when it cut to him and Other Joe just fucking around or whatever.
He basically says the game is good, as far as the bare bones basics of the gameplay is concerned, but is lacking content. He says it should have been labelled "Early Access." In short, he's saying some, but not all, of what a lot of other people who are complaining about this game are saying about it. He didn't give the game nearly as much shit or get nearly as angry about it as I was hoping he would, though.
Because Angry Joe is a reviewer (perhaps even, dare I say it, a professional one [not to be overly insulting to him to call him such]), I no longer hold it against him that he still buys this shit (though why he needed to buy the Collector's Edition to review [or... not review, as is apparently the case, and I have no idea what he's talking about when he says he's working on a Street Fighter game, maybe it's in a video of his I haven't watched], I don't know), even though he should know by now how the modern video game industry rolls. He is, I suppose, performing a service by letting people know about this shit.
The problem, of course, is do people actually listen to what he says? I'm not sure, given that lots of people in the comments are being fanboy apologists and/or reputation management drones about the whole thing and are shilling the fuck out of the game, even despite all the bullshit surrounding it.
In semi-related news, I couldn't even finish watching the SBFP Friday Night Fisticuffs video for SFV. (Which, in my not so humble opinion, should have been a Saturday Morning Scrublords video. ¬_¬ But then, they only use that label for games that they, themselves, actually find to be bad or stupid or whatever, and apparently, at least from what I watched of it, they think SFV is great.) I got as far as Pat saying "This game is so good. It lived up to everything that I always wanted it to be." Then I just had to sigh and close the tab. For what little it's worth, they were using a pre-release copy provided to them by Capcom, as they say at the beginning, but still...
If, and only if, I could get SFV in another Humble Bundle with a bunch of other games for $15 or less at some nebulous point in the future, then maybe I would buy such a bundle (but even then, I wouldn't be buying such a bundle for SFV). Otherwise, what I have seen of this game is incredibly underwhelming, enough so that I wouldn't even pay $5 on Steam for it, by itself. I am apathetic at best about Street Fighter V, and actively antipathetic at worst. And this will likely be the last post I make about it, unless something else comes up concerning it that happens to catch my attention.
(Warning: mild-to-moderate spoilers for episodes 3 and 4 of the Game of Thrones Telltale series are below.)
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And that last tweet contains a link back to this LJ, which brings everything full circle.
I ranted a bit more in the comments of one of the SBFP LP videos as well, for what it's worth (but it's even more spoilery than the above tweets are, so be warned).
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(EDIT 2) And it looks like they finally decided to air their dirty laundry. So, yeah, I'm pretty much completely done with THAC and its members and former members now, and, truthfully, I already have been ever since they split up. Basically, this is ScrewAttack all over again, for me, and I am simply washing my hands of the whole thing. Marble Hornets was good, and THAC was good while it lasted, until the breakup happened, so there is still that, I guess. Maybe if they somehow managed to work out their differences, put all the ugliness behind them, and got back together again, then maybe I'd start paying attention again, but as of right now, since that seems like it is highly unlikely to ever happen, I'm pretty sure I'm out for good. (/EDIT 2)
For those who don't know, these guys are the ones who made Marble Hornets (TVTropes Page) and its spin-off series, Clear Lakes 44. Troy and relative newcomer Noah are still with THAC (EDIT 2) and now Noah is gone, too, as a result of the above mentioned airing of dirty laundry, and THAC effectively no longer exists (/EDIT 2), for what it's worth, but given that literally half of the group/company (Joseph and Tim) just up and left, for shady reasons, and one of the two remaining guys is "the new guy," I'm kind of doubtful of the future of THAC, despite the reassurances of Troy and Noah that everything's still smooth sailing (EDIT 2) which, of course, turned out to not be the case (/EDIT 2).
So... now, the crux of this post and the question for me, personally, is as follows:
Do I continue to follow the separate paths that these guys may take in the future with the creative, public aspect of their lives, the same as I still do with Channel Awesome and Spoony, even after Channel Awesome and Spoony had their own less-than-amicable falling out?
Or... do I drop the whole lot of them, the same way that I dropped anything and everything to do with Stuttering Craig and Handsome Tom, starting from the moment that the latter left/was unceremoniously dumped from ScrewAttack for what were most definitely "not amicable" reasons? (EDIT) Oh, and see also: GameGrumps and BalloonShop. These were two groups that I didn't really know much about mostly until after I'd found out that the original groups had already broken up for whatever reasons, and as such, I didn't ever really get into following them. For GameGrumps, I don't really think Egoraptor has been all that funny after he apparently stopped making animations, and I never really followed JonTron to begin with. Though what I saw of GameGrumps while the two were still together was fairly okay (sort of a poor man's version of Two Best Friends Play), GameGrumps in its current incarnation (at least the very tiny amount of it that I was able to stomach) makes me want to hit myself in the head with a claw hammer only slightly less than PewDiePie does. For BalloonShop, at least, I've watched several of their videos, even so, because some of them are pretty damn funny, but still... I don't really follow them otherwise, unless I'm linked to them from elsewhere. So, I guess my natural inclination seems to be to simply not bother with groups like any of these, after they've had fallings outs among their members, with only a very few rare exceptions. (/EDIT)
Hmm... we'll just have to see how it goes, I guess. Only time will tell. (EDIT 2) Well, we saw how that turned out, so fuck everything, I guess. (/EDIT 2)
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They talk about some of the games in particular, but also toward the end, they give a brief overview of how Konami has just completely shit the bed as far as the Silent Hill franchise is concerned. (It's similar to how Konami has completely shit the bed with Castlevania and Metal Gear and all of their other once great franchises as well.)
I knew nothing about this game until watching the above video, but damn if that doesn't look pretty cool. From what they say there, this is a RPG that is being made using the Skullgirls engine. Here is the Indiegogo page for it. I don't know if I'll be backing it myself, though, since the minimum pledge to actually get the game is apparently the $30 tier, which is a bit steep for me. We'll see. Anyway, there it is, for those who might be interested. Looks neat.
Well, I'd recommend playing it, but in case you don't want to pay $10 on Steam for a game that only lasts a couple of hours or so (my full playtime was 116 minutes, so says Steam), here (and below) is a full LP of it by Liam and Woolie of Super Best Friends Play. The video was apparently recorded on the day that the game released (October 1, 2015). They go in completely blind, knowing nothing about the game, and that's truly the best way to experience it, I think. It took them about an hour and a half, same as me, and then there's a few minutes of "WTF did we just play? Was this real?" stuff at the end of the video. I'd already played through the game myself, but I have to say that watching the LP and hearing their reactions to the game was just as interesting, since I shared a lot of them.
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Here are my own thoughts about the game:
(EDIT) Oh, and I briefly disabled my Youtube comment blocking add-on on Firefox just to look to see what people might have been saying about the game and the video, and I was very, very quickly reminded of exactly why I was blocking Youtube comments altogether in the first place. When will I ever learn. (/EDIT)
Have some tweets...( Embedded tweets behind cut )
As an aside, I might just have to start trying to listen to the Super Best Friendcast again, even though I'm, like, 94 episodes behind now.