Mother 3

Aug. 25th, 2023 01:41 am
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It only took me... ...hmm, let's see... the fan translation was finished in October of 2008, so... two months shy of fifteen whole ass years to finally complete a full playthrough of Mother 3.

Some mild griping, first.



Mild griping behind cut )



So, with allmost of the griping out of the way... Mother 3 is pretty great. That said... I still think I like EarthBound/Mother 2 better overall, though. For Mother 3 the "main quest" (i.e. to find the Dark Dragon needles) doesn't even start until Chapter 7. That would be like if, in EarthBound, the quest to find the eight "Your Sanctuary" locations didn't start until after you got to, like, Summers or Scaraba or something. The first chapter is very heavy and dark, what with certain characters dying or going missing or having violent nervous breakdowns. And then... chapters 2-6 almost feel like... ...filler, in a way? Especially in retrospect? I mean, not really, but still. They do introduce or further flesh out the other party members (Duster, Kumatora, and Salsa [though Salsa ended up playing far less of a role than I would have expected, after his chapter as the main protagonist]), and they also show the overall progression (or regression) of what happens to Tazmily Village over the course of the game, but honestly, it seemed like "most" of the game took place in chapter 7, at least to me. Or maybe split between chapter 7 and chapter 8.

And then, chapter 8, the only part of the game that I had never seen before. New Pork City. This is where most of the direct Mother 1 and EarthBound references live, aside from a few in earlier chapters (like the room with the "Friend's Yo-Yo" in chapter 5 or when Ionia asks if you want to rest near the end of chapter 7). And of course, chapter 8 is where the identity of "King P" is finally revealed (assuming you didn't play Super Smash Bros. Brawl or read stuff on the Internet and have it completely spoiled for you, like I did).

I think my biggest "complaint" about Mother 3 (well, I mean, aside from the gripes above) would be that the story simultaneously tries to be both super serious (i.e. the events of chapter 1 and how that affects the entire rest of the game, and all the animal abuse in chapter 3, and just the overall tone of what happens to Tazmily Village as a whole) but also tried to retain the super silliness and whimsy of the previous games (like, sometimes you just find present boxes that, when you open them, do absolutely nothing at all other than play a fart noise, as one example... or one villain being injured at one point and later on only being able to communicate via trumpets inserted into their nose and thus needing an interpreter... or, you know, just everything about the Magypsies in general, for another example). Serious mood whiplash at times.

Another, milder "complaint" is that, unlike Mother 1 and EarthBound, which are world spanning adventures, Mother 3 mostly takes place in the same relatively small(-ish) area, and you do a fair bit of backtracking. Sure, there are some set piece areas that you go to as one-offs, like the Thunder Tower or the Chimera Lab or Tanetane Island, but most of the game takes place in and around Tazmily Village. Now, granted, Tazmily Village itself changes pretty drastically from the start of the game to the end (and becomes unavailable entirely once you go to New Pork City), so it's not nearly as bad as it could've been.

Things that Mother 3 does better than the previous games...

I think the party members are way more fleshed out as individual characters in Mother 3 than they were in the previous games, though. In the previous games, once they joined the party proper, the PCs almost seemed to cease existing as individual people, in a way. Like, say, Ness never really received much more characterization than "the chosen one from a small town," Paula was "the token girl who was good at magic and had a penchant for getting kidnapped," Jeff was "the nerd who invents stuff" and Poo was "the Asian martial arts kid." It was even worse for Ninten, Ana, Lloyd, and Teddy in Mother 1. The playable characters in Mother 3 get way more chances to actually do stuff, though, besides just "being in the party."

Also, because most of the NPCs are named characters who live in Tazmily village, and you see most of them fairly often through the course of the game, they also get lots more chances to be developed than most typical NPCs in Mother 1 or EarthBound (or any other RPG, for that matter) do. Even so, outside of a few like Wess or Alec who played more prominent roles, I was still finding it difficult at times to remember who any given character was or what their deal was. Not helping things was when the randos just called "Guy" or "Woman" or "Old Man" or whatever started showing up later on, either.

As for the villains... there was Fassad and the Masked Man and, eventually, King P himself (and, I guess, maybe that one Pork Trooper who really liked DCMC that you fight twice?), but aside from those, most of the rest of the bosses were just one-offs and mostly forgettable. Unless they were That One Boss, like the fucking Barrier Trio. But even then, the Barrier Trio were just... statues. There was nothing particularly special about them as characters or anything. And maybe the Ultimate Chimera, but that was more an instant game over condition than a boss, because you don't even go into a battle screen if you encounter it. You just die immediately.

All in all, I would say that Mother 3 is... mostly stand alone and could be played without having any knowledge of the previous two games. That said, there are definitely more than a few callbacks to both of the first two games that would be lost on a player who has never played them. Like, I'll just straight spoil a couple (though not where they take place in the game). There's a long hallway that seems to exist for no other reason than because the Mother 3 rendition of the Mother 1 title screen theme plays in it... and then the very next room after that (one of the best rooms in the entire game, if you've played EarthBound) plays the Mother 3 version of "Pollyanna (I Believe In You)", aka the first overworld theme from Mother 1 (and Ness's house in EarthBound). Also, at another point when you're just semi-randomly wandering around during chapter 7 looking for Needles, at one point, when you least expect it, all of a sudden, "Snowman" starts playing (here, for reference). In any case, the previous two games are great, so I'd recommend playing them before playing Mother 3, because it will enhance a playthrough of Mother 3 to, at the very least, catch all those refs.

I think that now that I am done with Mother 3, I will go back and replay Mother 1 for like the third or fourth time (because, this time, I did not do a full playthrough of both Mother 1 and EarthBound before attempting Mother 3 again... I just did another full playthrough of EarthBound alone, first). And then, maybe after that, I might give Cognitive Dissonance another try as well, as I've never finished that one yet, either.

(Post started at... *checks timestamp* ...1:41am. Post actually posted at 4:41am, exactly 3 hours later.)
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As of today, I no longer own any video game consoles or associated games. I sold all of that stuff to Lost Ark Video Games in Greensboro, NC. Well, actually, I do still own a Xbox 360, because Lost Ark wouldn't buy the old fat model, a Playstation 2, which I didn't even take out there to bother to try to sell because it was already on its last legs, and an old, modded Playstation 1 that I didn't even take with me to Washington when I moved out there in 2004, let alone to Lost Ark to try to sell. (EDIT) Oh, and I still have a Wii Fit board, even though I no longer have a Wii to connect it to, because I forgot to bring the stupid thing with me when I sold all the other crap. (/EDIT) Everything else is gone, though, including the handheld stuff. And, weirdly, I don't feel too awfully bad about it. I thought it would probably feel like the rough equivalent of selling one's children to do it or some such, but no... nothing all dramatic like that. (EDIT 2) I have to say that going into my Backloggery and tagging all those games with the little "Formerly Owned" ghost was somewhat sad, though. Some of them I had to actually (stealth) add as new games, since they weren't previously even in the list given that I hadn't bothered to update my Backloggery page in forever, only to then mark them as "Formerly Owned." >_> (EDIT 3) And... that was probably very close to the last time I ever even bothered to keep up with my Backloggery page, so... yeah. (/EDIT 3) (/EDIT 2)

Now, though, I still have a ton of old PC games, which Lost Ark also wouldn't buy, that I need to do something with. I'll probably end up selling those individually on eBay or Amazon Marketplace or something. I actually could have done the same for the consoles and console games as well, and probably would have gotten more money out of them in the long run if I'd done so, but I just wanted to unload them somewhere relatively convenient, so that's what I did.
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Physical disc/cartridge games, that is. I'm not even talking about digital stuff on Steam or GOG or whatever. A bunch of old shit that I'll almost assuredly never play again. Some are duplicates, even. For instance, I own three copies of Chrono Trigger (original SNES, Playstation, and DS versions). Hell, some of the games are stuff that I've since re-bought on Steam and/or GOG. I came to this realization while trying to get my final stuff packed. I know I've said in the past that I don't sell video games anymore, but... I think I'm going to be selling a shit-ton of video games... once I get them all back to North Carolina. -_-; Yeah, I probably should have sold them before moving if I was going to sell them at all, but it's too late for that now, and I'm not going to just leave them here. I suppose I could just take them to Half Price Books, same as I did all those old textbooks the other day, but, unlike all those old textbooks, I'm thinking I can potentially get a whole lot more money by selling the games on eBay or something. I'll need it if I can't get a new job in NC relatively quickly.

In any case, I will be leaving for North Carolina for good next Friday, Feb 21, so I have between now and then to finish packing and schedule a pick-up for the USPS to come get all of this crap (as I'm shipping the majority of it in Flat Rate USPS boxes). The sooner the better. Most everything is already boxed up, and I hope to have the boxes sealed and the shipping labels printed out by end of day tomorrow, for a Monday pick-up. I just hope there isn't some sort of limit on the number of boxes that can be picked up in a single day. >_>;
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Today is the 25th anniversary of the Castlevania series. Here is 1up's retrospective of the series as a whole. They were quite a bit more negative in the middle part than I would have been, and the best/worst bit on the third page was kind of silly and very subjective, as such things usually are (and, worse, they blatantly spoil several key plot points of some of the later games, so be forewarned), but on the whole I think it was a pretty fair look at the series.
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I was playing Metroid Prime the other day, and I was going through the crashed frigate, most of which is underwater. After the third or fourth trip back through this level, I was thinking something along the lines of "Man, the only thing I like about this level is the music." That's when the lightbulb for the idea of this post appeared over my head.

I'm just going to post a bunch of music from various underwater levels in games I've played. (I thought about including ice levels as well, but that would have doubled the size of this post. Besides, that means I can now do a "Ice Edition" or something later.) I know I'm leaving out a lot of stuff, and I might come back later and add more if I have a "I can't believe I forgot that!" moment. But for now, this is just whatever I thought of off the top of my head. (If you feel like posting your own "I can't believe you left out this!" comments, please do.)

Youtube videos behind cut )

That's it. For now, at least.
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Amusing subject line for some spam I just deleted.

Anyway, quick games related update:

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Mother 3

Oct. 17th, 2008 05:57 pm
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Mother 3 fan translation is complete.

Man, I only made it up to Threed in EarthBound. Oh well. I guess I could hold out and finish EarthBound first, but.... nah.
kane_magus: (The_Sims_Medieval)
I just finished playing through Mother/EarthBound Zero again (for, I think, the third, or maybe fourth, time now), in preparation for the imminent release of the fan translation of Mother 3.

Starting tomorrow, I intend to play through EarthBound (for what's probably the seventh or eight time). However, I'm undecided as to whether I want to play the game via emulator on my PC or on my SNES. With zsnes, I'd have access to save states and speed-up/slow-down and all that nifty stuff, as well as headphones for the music and such. However, playing it on the actual hardware on a TV is more authentic. Oh well, I'll decide that when I get home tomorrow.

While watching the end credits for Mother, it hit me again that I actually know one of the guys that worked on the game, which I think is pretty amazing. Phil works at GameInstinct now, same as me, and it looks like he started there around the same time that I did (my first stint with them for summer work started in June 2005). He's an awesome guy, like most of the other guys that work there. I haven't spoken to him about Mother yet, though I keep meaning to do so. Maybe the release of the fan-trans of Mother 3 will be a good opportunity to bring it up, see what he thinks about it and such.

Mother 3

Nov. 15th, 2006 02:08 am
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This is bittersweet news. On the one hand, it was apparently pretty much confirmed by Nintendo of America that there are no plans to bring Mother 3 stateside officially.

On the other hand, Tomato of starmen.net is doing a translation patch, with help from guys at Aeon Genesis and Neo Demiforce. That's about as bad-ass of a fan translation team that one could hope to get.
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On a lighter note, before I get back to finishing up my CS300 project:

Yay!

Nintendo, why did you not release this game over here?! WHY?

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Jul. 25th, 2006 11:42 pm
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Since it's likely that we won't be (officially) getting an English-translated Mother 3 for GBA over here in the US (and here's to hoping I'm wrong), maybe this will soften to blow a little bit.

Lately, I have been faced with many good reasons to get a Nintendo DS, this being the latest of them. Yet I still have not gotten one. It's only a matter of time, though.
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Here's just a sort of stream of conscious list of stuff, in the order that it comes to mind.

(EDIT) Breaks have been added between bullet points per request. That's the only concession to coherence that I'll make, since I'm not touching that big block of crap in the first point again with a ten foot pole. That big block of crap can be summed up by the first sentence and the last sentence, which is just a restatement of the first sentence, and the rest of the big block of crap in between can safely be ignored because it's a big block of crap. (/EDIT)

Click here for big-ass bulleted list )
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I went to EBGames earlier today and picked up Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap, Metroid Zero Mission, and Golden Sun: The Lost Age for GBA. Minish Cap I bought new, but Metroid and GS I bought used, so I only got the carts by themselves, no box, no instructions, nothing. But they were roughly half-price of new GBA games, so there is that.

What kind of sucks though is that I thought I was buying the original Golden Sun, which I haven't played yet either, rather than the sequel. I didn't realize it until I got home and was checking the game and deleting the old save files of the previous owner of the game, and then it asked me if I wanted to "transfer data from Golden Sun" when I was puttering around with it. I popped the cart out and, sure enough, there on the cart in really really tiny text under the Golden Sun label was "The Lost Age". *sigh* So now I have a game that I really don't want to play now because I haven't yet played the first game. Looking online, I haven't been able to find the first game for sale anywhere except Amazon, where people selling it used are wanting outrageous amounts of money for it. I haven't checked ebay yet though, so maybe I could find it there for slightly more reasonable prices... maybe. Either way, I'll wait until I get back to WA before I try to buy it, as I don't want to risk having it sent to NC and then it arriving there after I get back out here. At any rate, I do have a rom of the first GS on my comp, so there is that, although I wouldn't be able to do the whole transfer thing if I played the rom. Another thing is that I bought the games so that I'd have something to do while in NC, where I'll be comp-less, so having the rom for GS doesn't really do me much good in that sense either.

Oh well, I figure Minish Cap and Metroid Zero Mission will be enough, and I also never finished Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, so I could give that one another go as well. Considering Kingdom Hearts 2 is not too far off, that would probably be a good thing to do anyway. Between that, reading the most recent Harry Potter book, and going to see the most recent Harry Potter movie and the Narnia movie, and whatever else comes up while I'm back home, I'll probably have enough to do.
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I spent about two and a half hours this morning between 9:30 and noon fluctuating between being around 30% and 70% awake. Each time I'd near full wakefulness, I'd be thinking that maybe this would be when I'd finally get up. Then, I'd go back to being mostly-sleep again. Around a quarter after noon, I finally managed to pull myself out of bed. I'm not as sick as I was Friday or yesterday, but still kinda wobbly. I've got a MAT200 midterm tomorrow and a few assignments to submit in other classes so I guess I'll have to go in tomorrow whether I feel like it or not. :/ Hopefully, this will be passed enough that it won't be so bad, since I do seem to be slowly getting better.

In other news, there is this. This, if true, is excellent. It so had better be released in the US and not just Japan, though.

Also, this.

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